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Why was this page deleted? Xyl 54 (talk) 16:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

I've put some compromise sentences here. Can you check if they are OK to bring here? Xyl 54 (talk) 16:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, done; are there any changes needed? Or does that cover it? Xyl 54 (talk) 11:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additions proposal

(I'm moving these suggestions to here from IMN Talk.Xyl 54 (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
I also think there's potential for a new section explaining the term's significance relating to the propaganda of Italy, which is covered more generally at Kingdom of Italy (1861–1946)#Culture, propaganda, society, and achievements. Mare Nostrum is pretty empty right now, but I'd think expansion of that article should focus more on the older Roman usage; there's a big difference between the Roman Empire and the Kingdom of Italy. (posted there by JeremyMcCracken (talk) on 20 July 2008
I'd be interested in any connection with Italy's colonial expansion prior to Mussolini. (posted there byXyl 54 (talk) on 25 July 2008.
Xyl 54 (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mussolini's Mare Nostrum

there is also this article about italian mare nostrum, Mussolini's Mare Nostrum... probably a copy of an article appeared on simple english wiki --Melaen (talk) 21:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this back again? I've proposed it for deletion, again. Xyl 54 (talk) 01:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

Following an AfD on another article, there is a merge discussion here. Comments are invited. Xyl 54 (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image a bit off

Some wag is using an image of the Roman Empire in Latin that doesn't include the namespace term. Might want to get one that actually says "Mare Nostrum" instead of "Mare Internum." — LlywelynII 07:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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re: Expand template

I've deleted the Expand template that was here: The corresponding page on the Italian WP is problematic, as it contains material copied from the Simple wiki article, which was copied from the Italian Mare Nostrum/Mussolini's Mare Nostrum pages, which were the work of banned editor Bruno d’Ambrosio (as himself or as one of his innumerable sock-puppets). The issue has been raised at the Italian articles talk page; there is an archive of an interminable discussion here. Xyl 54 (talk) 18:33, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mare Nostrum Vs. Lebensraum

I have a quibble with the section describing the use of Mare Nostrum during Italy's Fascist period. Comparing the strategy of Mare Nostrum to the ideology of Lebensraum is factually incorrect. To make a better comparison would be to compare Fascist Italy's Spazio Vitale to Fascist Germany's Lebensraum. Mare Nostrum was merely a strategy to retain control of the Med, not for the aquisition of living space (Lebensraum) - one can't exactly permanently live on the sea during the interwar period! Just as Lebensraum was a core part of German Facsist ideology, so was Italian Spazio Vitale. Spazio Vitale was the "product" of Mare Nostrum itself. For Reference see Kallis, A.A., Fascist Ideology: Territory and Expansionism in Italy and Germany, 1922-1945 (London, 2000), pp. 50-51. 90.200.208.124 (talk) 20:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]